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		<title>By: Money Attitudes In Relationship</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money Attitudes In Relationship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 07:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to say &#8220;Hey, it&#8217;s that time again; let&#8217;s go over money stuff&#8221;), but when we move forward together, am I going to have to be the one bringing up finances all the time?  When is it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Gilbert and Ex Husband Talk Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Gilbert and Ex Husband Talk Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wonder if money issues had anything to do with the demise of Gilbert&#8217;s first marriage, and if she ever regrets the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Do You Have a Story to Tell on Money &#38; Relationships? &#124; Well-Heeled Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do You Have a Story to Tell on Money &#38; Relationships? &#124; Well-Heeled Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WellHeeled on February 2, 2010   Inspired by the month of February (Valentine&#8217;s Day always makes me think about the intersection between warm fuzzy feelings and cold hard cash) and my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wellheeled</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wellheeled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need to apologize. :) Your point is a good one. You’re right $2-$3k seems like a lot (and I’m not getting married anytime soon, so I don’t exactly know how much a prenup would be for two people with relatively uncomplicated financial situations), but here’s what my mom always said: Don’t miss out on the big money by trying to save the small money.

So even if the prenup costs $2k, it’s likely to be a tiny fraction of the money and headache it’d save you were the marriage to dissolve. So I’d probably rather put $2k on the table, set up something solid and fair, rather than wish I did in 20 years when there’s a death or a divorce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to apologize. <img src='http://www.wellheeledblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Your point is a good one. You’re right $2-$3k seems like a lot (and I’m not getting married anytime soon, so I don’t exactly know how much a prenup would be for two people with relatively uncomplicated financial situations), but here’s what my mom always said: Don’t miss out on the big money by trying to save the small money.</p>
<p>So even if the prenup costs $2k, it’s likely to be a tiny fraction of the money and headache it’d save you were the marriage to dissolve. So I’d probably rather put $2k on the table, set up something solid and fair, rather than wish I did in 20 years when there’s a death or a divorce.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 06:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;When I’m married, I want to have a dual-income household: We don’t have to make equal amounts, but each of us has to make SOMETHING (of course, barring layoffs and illness and such). It’s far too frightening for me to go without my own income, and it’s far too stressful to be responsible for the well-being of an entire family. My mom did that for a while, and I think that was one of the most stressful periods I’ve ever seen my parents in. Ever.&lt;/i&gt;

I think you&#039;re taking the wrong lessons from this experience.  I&#039;m guessing that when your mother was entirely responsible for the financial well-being of the family, it wasn&#039;t a choice.  That is indeed very stressful.  But single-earner families which &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; by choice are entirely different.  In fact, they&#039;re far less stressful than dual-earner families who are consuming more than either partner makes on their own.  Those families are in great trouble if something should happen to &lt;i&gt;either&lt;/i&gt; partner&#039;s job, but the single-earner family has a built-in safety net - the partner without a job can get one if necessary and shore up the family&#039;s finances.

And, if you marry the right person, I think you&#039;ll conquer your fear of not having your own income as well.  This one I am not going to guarantee you though.  Unfortunately, &quot;the right person&quot; is a rare breed and only a minority of people are fortunate enough to marry one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When I’m married, I want to have a dual-income household: We don’t have to make equal amounts, but each of us has to make SOMETHING (of course, barring layoffs and illness and such). It’s far too frightening for me to go without my own income, and it’s far too stressful to be responsible for the well-being of an entire family. My mom did that for a while, and I think that was one of the most stressful periods I’ve ever seen my parents in. Ever.</i></p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re taking the wrong lessons from this experience.  I&#8217;m guessing that when your mother was entirely responsible for the financial well-being of the family, it wasn&#8217;t a choice.  That is indeed very stressful.  But single-earner families which <i>are</i> by choice are entirely different.  In fact, they&#8217;re far less stressful than dual-earner families who are consuming more than either partner makes on their own.  Those families are in great trouble if something should happen to <i>either</i> partner&#8217;s job, but the single-earner family has a built-in safety net &#8211; the partner without a job can get one if necessary and shore up the family&#8217;s finances.</p>
<p>And, if you marry the right person, I think you&#8217;ll conquer your fear of not having your own income as well.  This one I am not going to guarantee you though.  Unfortunately, &#8220;the right person&#8221; is a rare breed and only a minority of people are fortunate enough to marry one.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re 20-something, have been with the same guy for 10 years AND have have money saved in the bank. Can you be my personal life coach please. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re 20-something, have been with the same guy for 10 years AND have have money saved in the bank. Can you be my personal life coach please. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seattle Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a lovely post! And I love this line: being together and broke in your 20s might be romantically bohemian, but being together and broke in your 30s or 40s often results in… not together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a lovely post! And I love this line: being together and broke in your 20s might be romantically bohemian, but being together and broke in your 30s or 40s often results in… not together.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Miss Moneybags</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Miss Moneybags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post! I did my own 10 things over at my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post! I did my own 10 things over at my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like a lot of the issues you brought up here.  I think being honest and considering things like #3 &amp; #6 are important for any relationship.  I don&#039;t think being realistic bars you from being romantic.

Personally, I think you might reconsider #2 when faced with the reality of raising a child. (Assuming you do want children).  Full-time childcare can be seriously expensive, and combined with the increased tax burden of a higher household income, the financial benefit might not really be that great.  Obviously, it depends on childcare costs and earning power, but to me it makes so much more sense to take a couple years off to raise children.  And I think it&#039;s perfectly reasonable to draw some personal money off of a main earner&#039;s income if you are staying at home.  Being a mom should be valued financially in a family and this might counter some of the anxiety of not having an independent income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like a lot of the issues you brought up here.  I think being honest and considering things like #3 &amp; #6 are important for any relationship.  I don&#8217;t think being realistic bars you from being romantic.</p>
<p>Personally, I think you might reconsider #2 when faced with the reality of raising a child. (Assuming you do want children).  Full-time childcare can be seriously expensive, and combined with the increased tax burden of a higher household income, the financial benefit might not really be that great.  Obviously, it depends on childcare costs and earning power, but to me it makes so much more sense to take a couple years off to raise children.  And I think it&#8217;s perfectly reasonable to draw some personal money off of a main earner&#8217;s income if you are staying at home.  Being a mom should be valued financially in a family and this might counter some of the anxiety of not having an independent income.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking of a pre-nup, Mr M actually suggested it. I don&#039;t want anything laying out terms for after we&#039;re married. Just something that documents what I own coming into the marriage. After we&#039;re married it&#039;s 50/50 all the way. But I&#039;ve saved and invested for years as a single and I guess I want to keep those accounts to myself if somehow we split. Taking what I earned before marriage seems wrong. Is that prenup territory or something else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking of a pre-nup, Mr M actually suggested it. I don&#8217;t want anything laying out terms for after we&#8217;re married. Just something that documents what I own coming into the marriage. After we&#8217;re married it&#8217;s 50/50 all the way. But I&#8217;ve saved and invested for years as a single and I guess I want to keep those accounts to myself if somehow we split. Taking what I earned before marriage seems wrong. Is that prenup territory or something else?</p>
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		<title>By: quarterlifegirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>quarterlifegirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post! I especially liked #8 (something I constantly argue with myself about), and #2. Whenever I find myself upset about something the BF did with his money I stop and think, and 90% of the time its NOT about the actual money. Relationships and money are tough!!

I would also like to see another post just on pre-nups....you hear a lot of things about them (particularly when celebrities are separating) but its hard to translate that to what it would mean in a &quot;regular&quot; couple&#039;s case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post! I especially liked #8 (something I constantly argue with myself about), and #2. Whenever I find myself upset about something the BF did with his money I stop and think, and 90% of the time its NOT about the actual money. Relationships and money are tough!!</p>
<p>I would also like to see another post just on pre-nups&#8230;.you hear a lot of things about them (particularly when celebrities are separating) but its hard to translate that to what it would mean in a &#8220;regular&#8221; couple&#8217;s case.</p>
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		<title>By: eemusings</title>
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		<dc:creator>eemusings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can imagine the excitement in class&quot;

LOL! I can imagine, you must have been one precocious teenager. BF and I will be starting out together with basically nothing, so a prenup really isn&#039;t for us. And I totally agree, it is INSANELY stressful supporting someone other than yourself, I&#039;m in my final year of my degree (semester starts in a month) and really hoping BF remains employed and has a job throughout the year, because the alternative is too horrendous to contemplate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can imagine the excitement in class&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL! I can imagine, you must have been one precocious teenager. BF and I will be starting out together with basically nothing, so a prenup really isn&#8217;t for us. And I totally agree, it is INSANELY stressful supporting someone other than yourself, I&#8217;m in my final year of my degree (semester starts in a month) and really hoping BF remains employed and has a job throughout the year, because the alternative is too horrendous to contemplate.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 05:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prenups for Lovers.  Read it. I heard the author on the radio one night and have never forgotten it.  A totally different perspective on the issue.

However, I can tell you, as a divorce attorney, prenups don&#039;t always reduce litigation.  Because, usually, unfortunately, prenups aren&#039;t fair.  But I think the honest frank conversation about money and death and divorce is only going to help your relationship pre-marriage.  And understanding how the laws of your state treat property during marriage is important because it colors how people act and behave. So even if you didn&#039;t get a prenup, the actual thinking about it and talking about it is extremely beneficial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prenups for Lovers.  Read it. I heard the author on the radio one night and have never forgotten it.  A totally different perspective on the issue.</p>
<p>However, I can tell you, as a divorce attorney, prenups don&#8217;t always reduce litigation.  Because, usually, unfortunately, prenups aren&#8217;t fair.  But I think the honest frank conversation about money and death and divorce is only going to help your relationship pre-marriage.  And understanding how the laws of your state treat property during marriage is important because it colors how people act and behave. So even if you didn&#8217;t get a prenup, the actual thinking about it and talking about it is extremely beneficial.</p>
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		<title>By: leparfaitamour</title>
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		<dc:creator>leparfaitamour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>found your blog through the wordpress tagsurger, and i love this entry! i think everything you said is perfect.

I think chivalry is VERY romantic, and it&#039;s always nice when the guy pays, and opens the doors! I also am VERY KEEN to make sure that the guy walks on the outside of the curb. I hate it when guys don&#039;t. Though, I also hate it when girls hold the girl&#039;s purses unless she&#039;s in the bathroom or tying her shoes. So i guess I&#039;m not full on chivalry (but then again, if they&#039;re just walking and he&#039;s holding her bag, i don&#039;t think that&#039;s chivalry, i just think the girl is lazy/rude).

And, I&#039;m in law school in a marital property class, so we learn a lot about pre-nup.s I still think they can be fair and promote the love in a relationship when both people do it together.

It&#039;s refreshing to see someone in love with all of the above. So, power to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>found your blog through the wordpress tagsurger, and i love this entry! i think everything you said is perfect.</p>
<p>I think chivalry is VERY romantic, and it&#8217;s always nice when the guy pays, and opens the doors! I also am VERY KEEN to make sure that the guy walks on the outside of the curb. I hate it when guys don&#8217;t. Though, I also hate it when girls hold the girl&#8217;s purses unless she&#8217;s in the bathroom or tying her shoes. So i guess I&#8217;m not full on chivalry (but then again, if they&#8217;re just walking and he&#8217;s holding her bag, i don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s chivalry, i just think the girl is lazy/rude).</p>
<p>And, I&#8217;m in law school in a marital property class, so we learn a lot about pre-nup.s I still think they can be fair and promote the love in a relationship when both people do it together.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s refreshing to see someone in love with all of the above. So, power to you!</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with all the things you mentioned, although money does not guarantee happiness it does make it easier to find and enjoy. nice article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with all the things you mentioned, although money does not guarantee happiness it does make it easier to find and enjoy. nice article</p>
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		<title>By: dogatemyfinances</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogatemyfinances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really thought a lot -- a whole lot -- about a pre-nup.  My problem was that I had no idea what&#039;s fair.

We could either make tons of money, either could stay at home with kid/s, we could be disabled and make no money.  With so many scenarios, I didn&#039;t know how I could possibly know what was fair.

I&#039;d love to see your pre-nup thoughts in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really thought a lot &#8212; a whole lot &#8212; about a pre-nup.  My problem was that I had no idea what&#8217;s fair.</p>
<p>We could either make tons of money, either could stay at home with kid/s, we could be disabled and make no money.  With so many scenarios, I didn&#8217;t know how I could possibly know what was fair.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see your pre-nup thoughts in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: SP</title>
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		<dc:creator>SP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much do you think a pre nup is worth?  In theory, I think I&#039;d want one, just to be completely safe.  Throw in things that are totally out of character for either of us to do just in case (ie - if one person spends a lot on credit card while separated (or married?) in case of divorce, only spender responsible for debt).

But I just don&#039;t think I&#039;d spend $2-$3k on one, and I think they&#039;d cost that.  That is a huge chunk of my cash for something I think has a low likelihood.

Sorry to nitpick.  The list is wonderful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much do you think a pre nup is worth?  In theory, I think I&#8217;d want one, just to be completely safe.  Throw in things that are totally out of character for either of us to do just in case (ie &#8211; if one person spends a lot on credit card while separated (or married?) in case of divorce, only spender responsible for debt).</p>
<p>But I just don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d spend $2-$3k on one, and I think they&#8217;d cost that.  That is a huge chunk of my cash for something I think has a low likelihood.</p>
<p>Sorry to nitpick.  The list is wonderful!</p>
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