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Joint Car Insurance Policy Between Unmarried Couples

by WellHeeled on July 8, 2010

CB and I discussed the possibility of us combining our car insurance policies once we move in together. As it does with many unmarried couples, it took us some time and research (and discussions) to decide how we wanted to proceed. I actually couldn’t find too much information on joint car policy for unmarried couples, so I thought I’d share what I’ve learned from my insurance agent and other research here.  Disclaimer: I am not an insurance or legal professional, and everything I write here is what I’ve been told / researched on my own. I make no guarantees as to the information’s accuracy or completeness.

  • Some insurance companies will allow unmarried couples to be on a joint car insurance policy. Some won’t.  For example, in California, Progressive permits unmarried couples to go on the same policy, whereas All State does not (I don’t know if domestic partners can have a joint policy with a company that does not allow unmarried couples a joint policy – but that’s something you should check if you are in a legal domestic partnership).
  • Married couples will receive more car insurance discount than unmarried couples because they receive a “marriage discount” as well as a “multi-car discount”.  I am not sure about the financial impact of legal domestic partnership on car insurance.
  • In California, the primary holder of the insurance is the Named Insured. The person (or persons) added on to that policy are Second Named Insured.  The Named Insured can unilaterally remove Second Named Insureds from the policy without informing or receiving permission from the Second Named Insured. In other states, Second Named Insureds may need to give permission before the Named Insured can take them off the policy. Make sure you understand what the requirements are for your state. It’s easy to imagine a scenario (after an unfriendly breakup, perhaps?) that quickly turns ugly.
  • Some insurance companies may require that two people living at the same residence to be “rated drivers” on each others’ cars – i.e. that both parties can drive each other’s cars.  CB and I decided not to have a joint policy, but because we live at the same address, my insurance company will not cover CB if he drives my vehicle. CB is hence an “excluded driver” on my policy.
  • If a driver on the insurance is at fault for an accident, the insurance company will pay out the damages up to the limit of the coverage. The victims can sue for amounts beyond what the insurance company paid – they can sue for the assets of the driver, then, if they so choose, they can go after the other insured person on the joint policy.  I don’t know how common or successful these suits are usually, but just the possibility of opening myself up to such liability is disconcerting.

The last reason is why CB and I decided not to combine our insurance policy. If he causes an accident or I cause an accident, we wouldn’t want the other person’s assets to be at risk of a lawsuit.  We have separate assets, but, well, you just never know.  That’s the reason why my parents insisted I get my own car insurance as soon as I graduated college – it was unwise to open their much-more-substantial-than-my assets to the risk of ME being sued.

If we were married, we would take steps to mitigate that risk (probably through the use of a much higher coverage / umbrella coverage).  But I don’t want to open ourselves up to the risk of liability (however slight) without a structure in place to mitigate it.

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Benjamin Bankruptcy July 9, 2010 at 1:40 am

My car insurace went from $700 to $300 a year when me and T moved in together. We don't have a joint policy but apparently men in relationships are in a lower risk catagory than "crazy single men!". You might not need to have a joint policy to save money.

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WellHeeled July 8, 2010 at 8:18 pm

That’s interesting! Must be different in Australia. I know that there’s no way that the insurance company can even price for the fact that we are in a relationship – unmarried couples’ relationship to each other would be in the “Other” camp. Essentially we are not treated any differently than if we are two roommates who wanted to go on a car insurance policy together.

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.deb. July 9, 2010 at 4:10 am

We looked into a joint policy (with AAA in CA) but they would not allow us to share a policy unless we added each other's names to the car registration.

Now we each have individual policies with AAA, but since it's all in the same company they allow us to add each other as listed drivers at no additional cost. So we're not getting a discount, but it doesn't cost me any extra to have BF on my insurance (as it would if we were insured with separate policies). If he was in an accident while driving my car, it would be reflected on his account rather than mine.

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eemusings July 9, 2010 at 7:19 am

Well, we only have the one car, and I virtually never drive it (once every few months at most). And I can't imagine any situation where I would drive it alone – I just am not that experienced with a manual.

I know it's slack, but I'm not really sure what would happen if we had an accident while I was driving. I'm not specifically named on his policy.

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WellHeeled July 10, 2010 at 7:56 pm

You might be covered under a "guest" policy.. but if you really are worried I'd just check with his insurance company. Do you have very good public transportation where you live? (and how is NZ's public transportation in general?)

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eemusings July 11, 2010 at 12:20 am

It's good where I live. Well, to get into the city and back at least, which is generally all I need for work – anything else and BF can generally take us :) I live near three main bus routes – one has committed to "a bus every 15 minutes or less" during the week.

Auckland's PT is pretty sad overall though, and as much of the country is still rural/small town, it's kind of nonexistent outside the main city centres.

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Jessica July 9, 2010 at 4:39 pm

A company you may not have heard of but may want to look into is Amica. My fiance and I are not married but do live together and share a car insurance and renter's insurance policy. We live in an area where having just 1 car is very feasible (Austin, TX) so we've chosen to do so. Amica did allow us to have a joint policy although we are unmarried and their rates are amazing. Plus, I have never had anything but a positive experience with their customer service. My fiance's parents had been using them for all of their insurance needs for well over 40 years and I plan to do continue to use them for all of my insurance needs.

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WellHeeled July 12, 2010 at 3:20 am

Thanks for the recommendation. I am getting a quote from them right now.

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Sara July 9, 2010 at 4:56 pm

Awesome, great post! I was considering this with my boyfriend but you bring up some relevant concerns for sure. :)

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Ruby Clifton July 11, 2010 at 6:03 am

Owning a car jointly has its own advantages. You save on fuel. Also by putting one car less on the roads, you contribute toward saving the environment by reducing the carbon emissions.

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Financial Samurai July 11, 2010 at 9:05 pm

You make a very interested point WH regarding not wanting the OTHER party to get sued if the other causes an accident. Hmmmmmmm. I guess if one has a big enough umbrella policy, then one is protected. Something to look into if you haven't already.

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Pamela July 14, 2010 at 5:05 pm

I never knew that about AllState not allowing unmarried couples to have a joint car insurance policy. I added my boyfriend to my AllState policy last March when we bought a house together and his rate went down by 50%. We're not domestic partners and didn't have to prove/submit any documents claiming we even live together. I just called my local representative and she took care of everything.

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WellHeeled July 15, 2010 at 6:57 pm

That was what our rep told us. Are you in CA? Rules might differ by state. I hope our rep didn’t give us incorrect information.

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